Lisa Interview (No intro)
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[00:00:00] Lisa, welcome to the Be Brand U podcast. So happy to have you. Thank you. I'm delighted to be here with you today. Such a great way to start 2024. So yeah, happy to be here.
It is so amazing. So I've given people a little bit of background on you, but I think first and foremost, what so many listeners, and I've already talked to a few listeners, they're very excited about this idea of a TED Talk. There's more to what you do than, than just the TED Talk, but I really want to make sure that listeners get a piece of that.
So absolutely. I think everybody knows. The Ted name and brand. It's pretty, it's pretty much a household name at this point. But as somebody who is that, you know, two time TEDx speaker and in the top 2 percent of TED speakers, I'm curious from your perspective, what does doing a TED talk open in terms of doors for you in a personal branding sense?
Like what did it do for you? Yes, I would be delighted to [00:01:00] talk about that. So the speaking from the TEDx stage twice as I have and, and as you mentioned, and I'm so grateful to everyone who has listened into my talks that one of them is now in the top 2 percent of all TEDx talks and it's completely changed my life.
So For me, I fell in love with TED Talks and TEDx Talks years ago and I would always listen to them at the gym and, you know, on the elliptical, I would watch TEDx Talks and, and for me, it became one of these, , just in 18 minutes or less. It's this really powerful way to change the world, right? So because you can take your big idea, get it out there in the world, touch thousands or even millions of people.
It's just such kind of an iconic stage at this point for thought leaders. In terms of what it did in my own life and the changes in my life after giving TEDx Talks, so I gave my first TEDx [00:02:00] Talk in 2019 at TEDx Albany in Albany, New York, and it was after that first TEDx Talk, which, by the way, was on the topic of why women will save the world, a very honest Passionate about women's leadership.
It's been a big part of my journey. And love working with other women leaders. But after that first TEDx talk, honestly, it was the first time for me that people started to approach me. I didn't have to reach out to them, but people reached out to me and wanted to hire me as a paid speaker for their organization, their company.
And so, and in the past, I had been delivering keynotes for a long time. A lot of them, I was basically donating my time for years to nonprofits, to women's empowerment conferences, to organizations that I cared about and causes I supported. But it really, for me, opened the door to start doing paid speaking gigs,
so that was the first and biggest change that came out of the first TEDx Talk. [00:03:00] After my second TEDx Talk in 2022, which was at TEDx Oneonta, and that was on the Because I thought all of us had had a bit of a chaotic rollercoaster ride during the COVID 19 pandemic lockdown starting in 2020 and all the sort of chaos that came with the shifts we all had to adjust to in the world after that.
So I wanted people to have simple tools and tips to return to an inner center of peace and calm, despite any external circumstances. So that was my second TEDx talk and because that one has performed so well, , and had so many views, I actually have since gained representation by an international speakers bureau.
Which for me was another game changer just to be able to work with an organization that's actively pitching me to their clients, you know, so that I got an excellent speakers fee and have the opportunity to [00:04:00] potentially speak in places all around the world was a huge game changer for me. And I think there's also something about the TEDx stage that if you are.
a public speaker, an aspiring public speaker. If you're someone who just wants to get your mission and your message and your vision out there in a bigger scale in the world, it is truly one of the best platforms, both to hone your speaking skills, right? You have a 18 minutes or less fully memorized talk,
that you're delivering from this stage, no teleprompters, no notes. And I find that it, for me, it has just It was a great way to really hone my public speaking skills, , really distill my message down to its absolute essence, right? But it also gives you additional credibility as a thought leader. It's a great way to grow your platform.
, it can, like, like it did for me, help you land representation and more paid speaking [00:05:00] gigs. People often later will land a book contract after having a TEDx talk go somewhat viral. There are a lot of exciting possibilities that can come out of it, and it's just exciting to impact so many lives. You have this talk of a lifetime that you now have for the rest of your life that you can share, and that really, in a nutshell, just distills down your essence and your big idea, right, that you want to share with the world.
So it's been such a game changer for me. I love it. I have like goosebumps. And if somebody wasn't already motivated to do , a TEDx talk, how could they not be after hearing that? That is one thing that I, I would love to dive into with you, which is, I think we all know the TED name and brand, as I was saying, and just really breaking down what the difference between Ted and TEDx is it's clear to me that the brand recognition is still there regardless.
But what is the difference between Ted and TEDx? Sure, absolutely. So [00:06:00] the TED and that acronym, by the way, stands for technology, entertainment and design, right? That the TED organization itself does have An annual conference where there's a main Ted stage, , they do have Ted women events. There are a couple conferences sponsored by the organization itself, that happen annually.
Those conferences, however, they, the odds of you getting onto the main Ted stage. Are extremely small, about one in 100, 000, right? So and a lot of the main stage speakers have been people who have given successful TEDx talks already, right? , and have that recognition and and the organizers of Ted know that they are extraordinary speakers.
And then. A lot of the more famous names and authors that we've seen out there were picked for the TED stage. The TED organizers certainly hadn't picked speakers as well, but it, you can apply to be a main stage speaker at the main [00:07:00] conference, but again, your odds are very slim of getting chosen if you've never been on that TEDx stage before TEDx.
So when you put the little X net next to the acronym, basically the TED organization. licenses, , their, their name and their protocols so that people around the world can apply to the TED organization to have a license to run an independent TEDx event. Now, in order to get that license to run the TEDx event using that official name, they have to follow the TEDx protocols.
So the talks have to be 18 minutes or less, you know, you are not. You are not a paid speaker on the TEDx stage. That's one of the TEDx protocols, although it can land you paid speaking gigs later, right? So I think it's absolutely worth. That is one free speech you definitely want to give, that one is going to give you a huge return on investment.
But there are literally thousands of independently organized TEDx events that happen around the globe. Now, [00:08:00] They are still very selective. Your odds of getting selected to any particular TEDx event are still around and maybe a little bit lower than your odds of getting into Harvard University. So it's about 1 to 5 percent of people who apply to an individual TEDx event are accepted, which means 95 percent plus are rejected.
It's still very selective odds, right? You still need to really differentiate yourself in the pack if you want to apply to give a TEDx talk. But because there are thousands of these events around the globe, there are just so many more stages and opportunities for people to try to plug into where they can share their unique.
Idea their voice, their mission, their message from that stage, right? So, I mean, they, they happen everywhere. If you, you know, look at the calendar for TEDx events coming up in January, 2024 globally. I honestly, I haven't perused it [00:09:00] today, but I remember from the last time I glanced at it. I mean, they're everywhere.
There are TEDx talks in India and, and all over the U S and South America, Europe, just everywhere you can imagine. So lots of opportunities. A lot more opportunities and you're, you know, 5 percent odds are certainly better than the odds of being one in 100, 000, right? So if you're an aspiring speaker, you definitely want to aim for that TEDx stage first,
and then if you get some TEDx talks under your belt, then you might want to aim for the main TED stage, which will be, that's my next goal, but You know, so wish me luck with that one. I am sending such good fives for that. I mean, already you have two TEDx talks, which, you know, given the odds of that is pretty darn impressive.
And then one that's exceptionally high ranking. So I, I have no doubt that that will work out in some way, shape or form. And And thank you also for providing so much clarity around what the difference between those two things are. And I was surprised to find, like, I saw like my hometown that I [00:10:00] grew up in New Hampshire, like, has a TEDx
like, you do go to the website. That's such a great tip, , for Ted, you can see like the map and the calendar of which ones are coming up. And I feel like that would be a good, like, go sit in the audience, find one that's near you. Maybe go sit in the audience. Like, funnily enough, that's how I met you.
I actually always like to break down how I met somebody on the Be Brand New podcast because networking and getting to know people is so interesting. So, the way that I met Lisa, for those listening, is I, I did a, paid talk for KeyBank and somebody in the audience at that talk was in the audience at one of your TED Talks.
I posted on LinkedIn saying I'm looking for guests for my podcast and one of the topics I was interested in learning about and sharing with others about was TED Talks and here we are. So I think that's also one of the You know, being a fellow speaker, that's certainly one of the powers of speaking of any kind is it just really connects you to these [00:11:00] people who are in your audience who become these cheerleaders and these connectors on your behalf.
And that's one of my absolute favorite things about it. I know that you would agree. Absolutely. I love it. I love just the, the connections we can make because you never know who's listening to your message, who just really needed to hear that message at that moment. I believe things can really arrive in.
What I would call divine timing for people sometimes, just synchronicity. And so it's just exciting, all those connections that we can make around the world and it brought us together. I'm so thrilled. Absolutely. And of course you all have to go watch, I'll make sure that, you know, your, your two TEDx talks are linked in the show notes along with all of that, but, we'll get to more ways to contact you a little bit later in the episode, but you absolutely should tune into those two things because they're really good messages.
Um, I'm curious. I know that helping people and probably especially women get on the TED stage is something that you help people with. I'm curious for those listening who are [00:12:00] thinking, okay, maybe for the first time I'm giving myself permission of this idea that I might want to write, apply for, and try to land a TED talk.
What, what would you say is their first few steps to starting that process? Absolutely, absolutely. So I think the most important thing you need to do if you're preparing yourself, if it's a bucket list goal and you want to get on that stage in 2024 or beyond, right, is to get crystal clear. About what your big idea is that you want to share with the world, right?
So the TEDx organization, they, they have trademarked sort of their language around it is the idea worth spreading the IWS is acronym for that, right? So, and I should clarify to I'm not officially affiliated with TEDx. I'm just a huge Huge fan of TEDx and a TEDx speaker and love helping other women with this too, right?
So, , the very first thing you need to [00:13:00] do is get really crystal clear on what is the one idea that you want to share from this iconic stage that could potentially touch thousands or even millions of lives in the future. So the TEDx stage, there's, they're pretty clear as well in their overall guidelines that The stage is meant to share world changing ideas, right?
So your listeners are brilliant women entrepreneurs. A lot of them probably just women with big ideas that are world changers, right? So, the TEDx stage, it's not the place to share. Your business or to market from that stage or to, you know, try to bring somebody over to a political cause. They're pretty explicit that you're not marketing your brand explicitly from the stage.
Of course, you are your brand, right? We know that. So, so you are being your brand on stage, but, it is a stage that is purely focused on these big ideas that TEDx [00:14:00] calls the idea we're spreading, so the first step really is to, to get clarity around what is your one idea that can change the world so that in the course of your talk, if you share this idea that changed your life, that transformed you and share your journey and people are inspired.
That a lot of the best TEDx talks, if you go back and listen to, there's so many that are so famous and so well known that have gone so viral, the Simon Senex and the Brene Browns of the world and Mel Robbins and, Jill Bolte Taylor, I believe is her name, who did that, the talk. She's a neuroscientist.
To talked about having the process of having a stroke. Her talk went quite viral. , Susan Kane, who wrote the book Quiet and she had a it could be simple. It could be a question to ask themselves, a reframe, one simple action step to take. But really, when you can get crystal clear on your idea that you want to share that will change the world, and some simple. [00:15:00] Action step could be maybe up to three action steps. You don't want to overwhelm people with You know, 15 easy steps they have to take is too many from a TEDx stage.
We don't have time for that. Right. So, but a few simple things, ways they could implement your world changing idea. So those 2 things are the absolute 1st thing you need to get. Um, you know, I think it's important to have clarity on. , you can also hire a public speaking coach. You know, I hired a coach before I did mine.
I now help other women get ready, prepare, deliver their talks, so if you want to give the Ted talk or just the talk the keynote of a lifetime, right? Sometimes it helps to walk through the process with somebody who's been on those stages, too, right? But that, that central idea, everything in the talk has to relate back to it.
Absolutely. That's very helpful for really starting to frame up, what makes a good TED Talk, like, not even just what will start sending you in the right direction for getting on the stage, but also you've started dipping [00:16:00] into, what's going to make that impactful, great TED Talk that is going to get a lot of reach and help you build that thing that you're known for, that takeaway.
Like, I think of, when I think of Mel Robbins, I think of 1. It couldn't be, it couldn't be more simple. Correct than that. And I think, I think that launched her whole career was this idea of counting down from five. And I know that you obsess over what makes the magic for Yes. You know, TEDx Talks and TED Talks.
Yes. And that's why I love you and wanted to have you on the show. 'cause like I know we can just get a, even like a little drop of that magic by listening into this and then they, you know, can go work with you to, to get that up on the stage as well. Yes. Yes, yes, I love working with brilliant women who have these big ideas to share that can change the world.
It's just, it's now part of my mission and actually I, I discovered in doing more research, I've read so many books and articles and essays about TED and TEDx and how to really slay that stage and I was reading this body [00:17:00] of research around the TEDx talks that were delivered between 2006 and 2017. And up to that point in time, two thirds of TEDx speakers were men, 81 percent were white.
And I felt like that to me doesn't represent the beautiful diversity of this world that we live in. I just felt like I made it part of my mission that I was like, wow, we really need to have more incredible women sharing their world changing ideas from all different stages. And, and just a more diversity on the stage, more differently abled people, more members of the LGBTQIA community.
But, you know, my mission on earth, I feel is around empowering girls and women. That's, that's all of my work is around empowering girls and women. So I just really feel we need to keep getting more brilliant voices on that stage. And make sure that if you have a world changing idea to share that, you know, that everyone listening has a chance to get on that stage [00:18:00] and share it in such a big way.
And it's such a beautiful mission. I think it's I always knew that representation. In the speaking world, not even just TEDx, but all of speaking was really male dominated, but I didn't viscerally feel it until I started stepping into the world of especially doing keynotes and even just being a trainer and like I know you've probably had this experience where you to a panel and you're the only woman or I've had moments where it's like I show up especially at a more like technical conference and they're like, Yes, They think I'm like the assistant or something,
I mean, it doesn't happen. I'm also young, but like being young and a woman, they're like, who's, who's executive assistant are you? And I'm like, I'm the speaker. I'm the boss here. And you know, it is what it is, but I love that you, , you found and, and another reason beyond just sharing the magic You know, Ted with us that I really wanted you on the be brand new podcast is I think so many people who are in my universe and who are going to [00:19:00] be continued listeners of the be brand new podcast what they want more than anything is permission to explore.
Multiple interests, passions and obsessions. And there's one thing I really love about you, Lisa, is that you have found this way to really be brand you and explore all of these different things that I mentioned in your introduction. Like there's politics, there's women, there's, the TEDx piece and you find this really.
unique way to weave them all into who you are. So I want to go a little bit deeper into your background on the women's leadership piece and walk us back to how do you go from that to then having two what seem like very different TED. , topics, but still being able to do that and earn greatly and all of that.
So tell us how you accomplish that. Yes, absolutely. Thank you for asking. So honestly, my interest and passion around women's leadership. Dates back to childhood. [00:20:00] I was probably about five years old when I decided I wanted to be the first woman president. So, obviously, in the United States, we did have a woman candidate win the popular vote in the presidential election in 2016, as we probably all recall, but we haven't yet had a woman step into that.
office. Of course, now we do have Vice President Kamala Harris. But that was a childhood dream of mine. And when I was about eight years old, my uncle was the youngest state representative in Massachusetts history at the time. So I grew up on campaigns. I grew up dropping leaflets at doors and knocking on doors as a kid and getting to stay up till midnight and have pizza when you were like eight or nine was such a big deal.
So politics were fun for me at a young age, right? And my path with politics, which has been woven in and out of my life, I got involved in many local campaigns [00:21:00] in the city where I live, Troy, New York. So over the years I had helped on different campaigns. I ran a campaign for city council for someone who was running as a Democrat in Troy.
I also had planned events for Hillary Clinton locally when she was our U. S. Senator from New York State. So, after planning events for Hillary and I had a good relationship with her staff in Albany, I, When she was running in 2016 and it was really important to me, I was like, well, this is the chance to get the first woman president into office.
And so I took a job on her campaign and was helping out in a campaign office in West Philadelphia. where we did end up winning by a bigger victory margin and had higher turnout than any previous election. But we all know the ultimate results in 2016. So I've also worked on the President Obama's [00:22:00] campaign in 2008 in Virginia, worked on Jackie Rosen's campaign for U.
S. Senate in 2018 in Las Vegas, worked on Joe Biden's campaign, helping to run virtual phone banks and have met Kamala Harris a number of times throughout my travels. I worked for Gavin Newsom, who's now the governor of California. I worked for him when he was the mayor of San Francisco. I wrote a strategic plan for performance management for the city and county of San Francisco because I had studied performance management for municipal governments While I was getting my master's in public administration degree at Harvard University, I went to the Harvard Kennedy School and got my degree in 2005 and was hired by Gavin Newsom to work for the city and county at that time and met Kamala Harris through those circles.
So just leadership and women in politics. I've always wanted to elevate women as leaders. , I have worked for some nonprofit organizations, training women to run for public office. [00:23:00] So campaigns and politics have just been part of my life for a long time. And as I said, it's something I have sort of cycled in and out of.
I don't work full time. In politics by choice, partly because I'm so passionate about the other things I do. I I love public speaking. I love empowering women. I also spent many years healing from symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder, which unfortunately, one in three women globally. I believe this is still the statistic today.
. Will be a victim of violence in her lifetime, which is a shattering and terrible statistic. So I was one of those women. I spent a lot of years healing from the trauma and used to have panic attacks, chronic anxiety, episodes of severe suicidal depression earlier in my life that were related to the PTSD and.
I have spent the past 18 years also practicing meditation, studying with Buddhist [00:24:00] teachers from the U. S. and India, went on a deep dive kind of spiritual path to try to heal myself of the symptoms of PTSD, and really was able to get my own baseline to peace, calm, and joy. This is sort of where I live, and if I'm anxious, it's a deviation from the norm,
I don't have panic attacks anymore, or sort of any of the things that used to happen in my life. You know, that honestly, we're pretty, it's pretty understandable. I had a stalker in college who used to describe how he planned to murder me. It's kind of like, not, it's, it's understandable that I would have for many years afterwards, if I heard a noise at night, be worried he was going to break in and kill me, right?
So that fear of violence I lived with for a very long time. But. When I was able to transform myself internally, I realized that that transformational process and healing process was possible for anyone. I'm not special or different. I really believe that no matter what we've been [00:25:00] through in the past or how traumatic it was, that It is possible to walk on a path of healing.
It doesn't mean that incident never happened. It doesn't mean we may ever completely forgive or forget the incidents of the past, but that we can walk in a way that we feel strong, empowered and calm and joyful in our lives, and I learned when I started telling my story publicly,, which was about at this point, probably 14 years ago, I think.
I. I started telling my story publicly about the traumas that had happened to me and how I had healed from them and realized it was helping people. It was giving other people a vision, other women a vision of what was possible, so no matter what they'd been through, there was a path forward. No matter what had happened to them in the past, it did not have to define their future.
And that, to me, became a core part of my mission and message and work because I really want any [00:26:00] woman out there, the one out of three who have been a victim of violence in this lifetime, I am so sorry, it was not your fault, you were, , you were a victim of something terrible, and I just want women to know that it is possible to you.
, become more empowered to heal, find peace and joy inside and to really live our best lives. And no one gets to take that away from you. Your past doesn't get to take that away from you. So that became a real passion of mine. But these, so these paths have kind of co existed, right? The public speaking, the coaching.
I became a Martha Beck certified life coach in 2012 because I wanted to have more tools to work with women, to empower them, to live their best destinies. I lead global destination retreats for women in gorgeous locations. I'm leading one in Puerto Rico in January 2024 in Rio Grande at an oceanfront Barbie dream house, I call it, this three story pink mansion on the, on the ocean.
And I've led them in Playa Paraiso, Mexico, Paradise Beach, Mexico. I'm [00:27:00] leading one in Bali in 2025, May 2025. I'm going to take an amazing group of women to Bali. Still have spots open for that. But I, I love to. Also, take women to beautiful destinations that get us away from the everyday and away from the stressors of daily life to be able to do a real deep dive into healing, returning to that inner sanctuary of peace and calm, and just see what becomes possible for our vision for our future when we have that time and space to dedicate purely to our own dreams and visions, it's so beautiful. And I thank you for just sharing your story and really showing how.
What may seem to somebody on the outside who is just looking at a bio or something like that, they might think, Oh, are those two disparate ideas, but , they're all just you living into who you are. And when you hear the story, you realize that they are all woven together. It's this. External, you know, we can influence politics and we can influence how empowered we feel.
And then there's also the [00:28:00] internal that we can influence. And all of it just builds back to this mission of empowering people, empowering women. And I just love that. And I hope that hearing your story gives people permission to say, You know, everybody talks about like, niche down, niche down, niche down.
And like, yes, yes, you're going to have offers and you're going to have things that are for specific people. Someone's going to hear Barbie Dreamhouse and be like, sold, done, that's for me. Or like, right, you know, Bali retreat 2025, done, ding. I'm going with Lisa. I'm excited. So people will know when offers are for them, but you really model how you can.
Take all of these different parts of you, and you don't have to abandon parts of your story. Like, what if you had woken up and said, like, Talking about trauma isn't in my niche. Sorry, how many fewer people would have been healed and, and, shown that it wasn't their fault or shown that it's okay to process that trauma.
And so I thank you for being the full expression of who [00:29:00] you are, just modeling what that's like for us. I really appreciate you for that. Thank you so much. Thank you. That's so beautiful. I really, I appreciate you for saying that. And for me, it's just, it's so important to me in this lifetime as the perfectly imperfect human that I am, we all are, I believe, a work in progress and a masterpiece simultaneously,
. And this is rooted somewhat in the, the Buddhist teachings I have studied for years as well. But for me, it just makes sense that we as Nature evolves all the time, and there are different seasons in life. I believe we too are constantly evolving as beings, and so, I feel like allowing ourselves, like you said, sort of giving ourselves permission to step into exactly who we want to be in the world, because the magic of it is, and this actually, if you go back and listen to Mel Robbins TEDx talk that really made her career , go off like a rocket ship, right?
Launched like a rocket ship at that point. I love Mel Robbins. She's amazing, but she quoted a [00:30:00] statistic in that TEDx talk that always stayed with me, and I went back and researched it further and read all the studies by the scientists who came up with this number, but she basically said that the odds of you even being born.
So anyone listening to this today? The odds of you even being born are 1 in 400 trillion. Now we, we can't honestly really even conceptualize how big a trillion is. We think we can, we can't. It's a huge, huge, huge number. And that basically means the odds of you being born, and I read, an extrapolation on this statistic.
It was something like, you know, it's about the odds of winning the lottery 300 million times, right? So just if you just won the lottery over and over and over. So which maybe makes that number gives it a little bit more of a sense of just how large that number is. But basically like your ancestors and their ancestors and their ancestors and their ancestors all the way back had to survive to procreate for you to be on this earth.
So I really strongly believe that we all [00:31:00] have unique gifts. We all have unique stories to tell. The way I tell my story is going to be very different from someone else's story, even if our circumstances were similar, right? We all have a unique voice, a unique vision, a unique mix of gifts we can bring to the planet.
And it's just so important to me that while I have the gift of being alive in this body in this lifetime I want to be able to give my gifts back on the highest level that I can and imperfectly,
I'm a recovering perfectionist. You know, as an overachieving perfectionist, kind of, since I shot out of the womb, like, I just feel like I've always been trained to, by myself, really, it was a pressure, internal pressure to, and society, of course, I mean, society puts a lot of pressure on women to be perfect in all the ways, but I'm this, like, recovering perfectionist, but I really believe that when we can step into letting ourselves show up in the world exactly as we are today, so that you don't need to be different to go bring your message to the world, You're not broken like I really believe [00:32:00] that I hope all everyone listening in will really take this in like I believe that you're not broken.
You're not a project that needs fixing right you are simply an evolving human being who is in progress on your journey. That is all yes, we can continue to work on the things we want to work on and expand in the areas we want to expand.
But there's nothing inherently wrong with you. Like, you are perfect as you are, and the world needs your voice. If you do not share your voice, the world will never. Get that exact message. People will miss out, there are people who need your gifts. I hope everyone listening can just dive into that this year. Just remember, your unique gifts are meant to be shared. And if you don't share them, no one will ever be able to share them again.
Your unique spark, you need to bring that into the world. The world is waiting for it, waiting for you to just shine. I love it. I feel like everybody in the world needs to tune into this podcast because for me to download that same message that you've just so beautifully packaged up, [00:33:00] I had to get really sick and be worried that it was going to be the end for me.
I got a very bad infection. I was in a hospital bed. And a lot of people ask me, especially for some reason on LinkedIn, When I post and show up and share my voice and share myself speaking, people will be like, Lissa, what inspired you? Like, where did you get the bravery to go and do this?
And I hate that it, that the answer is, well, I almost died. Right. And if people can tune into the message that you're sharing, we've all been through hard things, whether we've had a near death experience, or we've had some other type of trauma. I'm a firm believer you do not leave this world without some form of, of trauma.
It just is part of. Part of being human. So I think everybody listening can relate to what you shared , and how you brought that up. But you don't actually have to go through that in order to be able to shine your light as you put it. So for sharing that and, and just giving permission.
I think at this point, everybody's going to want to go have [00:34:00] a retreat with you, because I feel like if this is what you share on a podcast interview. To be able to spend some time with you in a beautiful location would be just magic. So, I want to make sure people know where they can find you, they can work with you for a TED Talk, but also for the Heaven on Earth Bali Bliss retreat that's coming up in 2025.
Assuming you're not listening to this episode sometime in the far distant future and you've gone all the way back and you've binged all the episodes, you might have to check out what's new, but tell us what's going on and how people can get your magic. So there are a couple of different ways for people to reach out to me.
I am on LinkedIn, love it as a tool. So if you look up Lisa Pell Graham on LinkedIn, I absolutely invite people to connect with me, to message me there. I am at Lisa Pell Graham on Instagram. My website is Lisa Pell Graham. com. So if you got my name down, you can probably find me a lot of places. And then The, the retreats, the Bali [00:35:00] retreat, the website to check out is choose heaven on earth.
So the name of the retreat is heaven on earth. Choose heaven on earth. com is the website for the Bali retreat. And people can reach out to me at any of these different ways that I've mentioned to ask questions or get on my calendar to talk more if there's a talk of a lifetime you want to give or. You want to come hang out with us and work on creating those internal states
doing the deep inner work so that we can experience more of our own personal definition of heaven on earth is really what Bali will be about. We'll be staying in luxury villas and all your needs will be taken care of, but then you can really focus on your inner journey.
It's just for me, it's a gift to still be alive. As you said earlier, you know, I'm so sorry that you went through an experience also, Lisa, that was like threatening. And for me too, I feel like the fact that I could have not been here really multiple times in this lifetime makes me appreciate the gift of life more,
and just want to. [00:36:00] Give as much as I can back and empower as many women and girls as I can globally, and just show people that you do have permission, you have permission to go out there and be you, you have permission to go conquer the world, if you were waiting for a sign, this is your sign, this is it, go, right, reach out to me if you need my help, I'm here, I would love to work with you, I'd love to meet you, I want,
all of us to just in this precious limited time we have on Earth to feel safe to be out there expressing our voice and our vision and that changes the world. You just being you changes the world, makes it a better world.
. And there we go. I'm going to send everybody off with that message. Lisa, thank you so much for being here and sharing your energy and your wisdom on the podcast. I know so many people are going to enjoy following along on your journey. Thank you. Thank you so much for doing this interview with me.
I'm so honored and delighted. It was a joy.
